Wipe out those breakup tears because we are going to show you that really love is certainly not a lie! Recently we’ve got Autostraddle publisher as well as around icon
Heather Hogan
writing on their 11 year(!!) commitment along with her girlfriend and all circumstances overall interactions.

But first! We celebrate being reunited — after an eventful summer! — and perform a game of guess the tv series from the fanfic.

PROGRAM NOTES

+ If you’re an A+ member, look for
this massive crossover fanfic
that Autostraddle TV group jointly published,  such as the Buffy/Faith/Nia Nal threesome we concocted.

+ one of the primary parts I penned for Autostraddle was
this essay about period one of

Fleabag.

+ one more reason to be an A+ member: this
unique look at Heather and Stacy’s marriage!

+ I favor communication but
as Vanessa outlined right here
there is such a thing as excessively handling.

+ if you prefer a further look into my mindset that simply because a connection comes to an end does not mean it wasn’t meaningful,
check the best article
I’ve ever before written.

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Heather:

We stayed out the whole evening, that is simply thus off fictional character both for people. And I believe it was only, this really is indicative of one’s connection, I think, where it was similar to, that is awesome. Why don’t we just do the next thing. This is so that fun. Let us simply do the next thing. And I think thatis just been how our relationship’s been for like 11 decades. Every step recently been like, “This part’s great. What is the the next thing we could perform?” therefore, yeah.

Theme track plays

Drew:

Hi, I Am Drew.

Christina:

And I Also’m Christina.

Drew:

And introducing,

Wait, Is It a Date?

Christina:


Wait, Is It a Date?

is an Autostraddle podcast centered on the burning question: wait, is it a date? In which Drew and I also discover all kinds of things about online dating. Something internet dating, what isn’t internet dating. And really simply have a grand adventure, I would say.

Drew:

I might also say that it is often a grand adventure yet and certainly will continue to be. I am Drew Gregory. I’m an author for Autostraddle and a filmmaker and a trans lesbian. And that I want something totally new to increase the mix. I never ever can consider any such thing new. I do believe those tend to be my identities.

Christina:

Often identity does not alter, despite what TikTok will say to you.

Drew:

I’m Jewish.

Christina:

Yeah. What I’m Saying Is like—

Drew:

Sort of. I mean, yeah. No, I am not spiritual, but that is in addition section of my identification. You’ll tell from my personal tresses.

Christina:

With which hasn’t changed however, i guess.

Drew:

That I’m Jewish?

Christina:

Yeah. You have been Jewish.

Drew:

No, I’ve been Jewish. Yeah, that didn’t occur involving the two attacks. Really, who’re you, Christina?

Christina:

I Am Christina. I am also an author at Autostraddle. A loud homosexual on the web. I’m actually looking forward to the regarding Princess Diana season, AKA motorcycle shorts and sweatshirts. This is where i am trying to end up being. I’m in Philadelphia, so it’s 96 degrees these days. So we’re slowly acquiring truth be told there. It’s just like Needs it today. It’s my personal perfect time. I want to be a principal personality for the fall, and it is maybe not happening however.

Drew:

Yeah. Well, what is actually interesting that you are disclosing at the moment is, very in regards to our listeners, it’s been weekly since the final occurrence, that is what it always is. But also for united states, we in fact taped 1st six episodes once we had been locating our vocals and building this brand new podcast. We recorded that beforehand, the good news is we are rather present. So this is like we have now had a whole summertime. Therefore we have not recorded in months and in addition we’ve already been to all sorts of things

Christina:

Uncharted area. The last time we recorded, we’dn’t met. We’ve came across face-to-face.

Drew:

That’s true! Yes!

Christina:

Drew was at my personal ding, dang house, only chilling out.

Drew:

Yes!

Christina:

I’d merely awaken and become want, “Well, check, which is Drew over truth be told there.”

Drew:

So wonderful.

Christina:

It actually was really delightful.

Drew:

You may have this type of a gorgeous home.

Christina:

Thank-you. It really is a homosexual chaos house so we love it very dearly. Yeah. So we’re merely on another journey and it’s really interesting as taking place this venture with these listeners. Will we have other things we would like to pontificate when it comes to before we obtain into all of our small video game?

Drew:

What i’m saying is, I don’t know. I’d a huge summertime, but I Suppose circumstances will happen up given that periods come-along, but…

Christina:

Yeah, I don’t would like you to weight it all in the front.

Drew:

You don’t want me to ruin everything?

Christina:

Yeah. Load every thing right in front? My God, exactly what a horrible sentence.

Drew:

It seemed somewhat intimate, and I really had more of a looked at like—

Christina:

It performed!

Drew:

I was thinking much more though that you were leaving Home Depot and had been like getting into your car, which I learn you do not have, but that has been in addition where my personal brain is, which also may be sexual.

Christina:

I also only love your thing which is keeping me from going to Residence Depot is a motor vehicle rather than ab muscles person that I am. Like everytime i have been at property Depot, some body happens to be like, “Ma’am will you be missing? Are you secure right here?” And that I’m want, “No, frankly. Much wood about. I am not secure.” Thus I have a game for Drew because we want to perform video games.

Drew:

I’m listening.

Christina:

And that I determined, in both honor of me and our visitor, that the would definitely end up being only a little intro inside field of fanfic for Drew. What exactly You will find accomplished is actually i have taken five programs from Drew’s ideal Characters in tv record, and I am attending read you some labels from AO3’s fanfiction and you are planning to need guess which associated with programs these tags tend to be discussing. I’ll begin general, they will certainly find out more specific on show even as we complement.

Drew:

Okay. I just involve some concerns—

Christina:

Of course you will do.

Drew:

Because I don’t know a large amount towards fanfic globe. Thus every show has words which are involving that show?

Christina:

Yes.

Drew:

That array in specificity, I would picture?

Christina:

Sure. Yes, they are doing.

Drew:

And therefore should you decide planned to find a reveal that had like, I am not sure, medieval occasions you might strike the medieval tag.


Christina:

We’ll point out that I didn’t find any medieval times labels in any of those shows. Like to notice it.

Drew:

Well, that is not my flavor, but I was just putting one thing out.

Christina:

Yes.

Drew:

Because I guess inside my brain, I happened to be like, oh, well, if you’re checking out fanfic, you are considering demonstrates that have characters you want. But that is never the case. Often you are just looking for a subject and then you can find out programs through the fanfic?

Christina:

You can. That might be a strange solution to address fanfic since most people treat it knowing the ship obtained in your mind. And then they claim, i do want to read possibly another universe type of this fanfic. Perhaps I would like some harm convenience. Maybe i would really like a slow burn. Perhaps I just desire some straight up smut. There’s a lot of places which folks get. Immediately after which there is also only extra labels, letting you know the kind of flavor and vibe regarding the story. And weare going to go flavor and ambiance. Because demonstrably vessels offers it away and an alternative market just isn’t particularly beneficial per the tv show, so wewill be certain with the tv show.

Drew:

Okay, cool. Why don’t we jump in it.

Christina:

Okay.

Drew:

Why don’t we find out together. Yeah.

Christina:

Okay. The first one. We’re going to start off with imaginary politics, praise kink, abandonment dilemmas, really slow burn.

Drew:

Compliments kink, political… imaginary politics?

Christina:

Fictional politics, yes.

Drew:

Does which means that like politics which happen to be grounded inside the real life, however they are imaginary or completely imaginary politics?

Christina:

We haven’t look at the fic at issue, but i am assuming it indicates entirely imaginary politics.

Drew:

Okay.

Christina:

We are able to continue.

Drew:

Yeah, carry on.

Christina:

Past punishment, harmed convenience, Now I need gentle what to live and therefore will you. Entertaining label. Simply was required to read this one.

Drew:

Okay, hold off. Possibly I should just take one minute and consider what the best shows tend to be. Okay. Because I’m wanting to consider the demonstrates have actually politics inside. Oh wait, could it be

The L Term?

Christina:

This option is certainly not

The L Term.

No.

Drew:

Because that has fake politics.

Christina:

It does.

Drew:

Because Bette runs for mayor. I’m not sure should you just remember that ,.

Christina:

Oh, I do.

Drew:

Okay, why don’t we see. What other…

Vida

provides politics.

Christina:


Vida

has actually politics.

Drew:

Can it be

Vida?

Christina:

Unfortunately,

Vida

does not have any fanfics.


Drew:

Oh, just what?

Christina:

I know. So men and women, can it.

Drew:

Individuals, access that. I would read that fanfic.

Christina:

Folks, can it.

Drew:

Okay. Let’s see. What other…

Christina:

I will continue.

Drew:

Continue. Yeah.

Christina:

Cat and mouse. Possessive conduct.

Drew:

Oh, oh,

Killing Eve.

Christina:

There you decide to go.

Drew:

Cat and mouse had gotten me personally. Oh, reward kink. Yeah. Okay, it’s all clicking. Its all pressing.

Christina:

It all clicks. All of it ticks. It was in addition difficult because I’d locate people which were specific adequate to the show, and like, it might shock one to understand there are plenty of compliments kink situations around.

Drew:

Yeah.

Christina:

Exactly like a lot. The same as a lot.

Drew:

It’s my opinion that. I like our very own area.

Christina:

I know. One of these is not in your list of preferred television shows and/or preferred TV figures because several of your preferred television shows did not have fics, that has been sad.

Drew:

Great.

Christina:

But this is a tv show we’ve discussed quite a bit and that I think you’re going to get it.

Drew:

Okay.

Christina:

Eventually. That is will be easy for your family, personally i think.

Drew:

Oh, Jesus. Pressure.

Christina:

Male relationship. Mentally repressed.

Drew:


Appearing?

Christina:

No.

Drew:


Ted Lasso?

Christina:

Yep. Yep.

Drew:

Like, exactly what demonstrates carry out I see with guys? Okay, let us take to the homosexual one. Nope. Why don’t we take to the direct one.

Christina:

Yeah, others one was going to end up being “team connection” and I also was actually like, which is an easy one. There’s a straightforward one. Okay. Let’s see. Canon character death, LGBTQ fictional character of shade. Absolutely a tongue twister individually. Groups of option. Mummy girl union.

Drew:


Awareness 8?

Christina:

No. in the region, I would personally state. I might say where region.

Drew:


Pose?

Christina:

Yeah. Another any would definitely be canon gender work, thus — all right, we’ve two more.

Drew:

Okay. Everyone loves it.

Christina:

Jealousy. I will be scared for this subsequent event because Really don’t trust the people. A literal label about fic. Famous.

Drew:

Okay. I am talking about, I do not believe

Glee

is found on my personal listing, but that’s what I would first imagine.

Christina:

It is really not

Glee.

Really don’t consider

Glee

had been on any lists.

Drew:

It isn’t.

Christina:

But amusing point. Ex-lovers to buddies back again to lovers trope, family members feels, relationship. A lengthy awaited reunion.

Drew:

Ex-lovers to pals straight back. So is this

The L phrase?

Christina:

Really

The L phrase.

Drew:

Okay. I was like, ex-lovers to buddies back to ex… Yeah, the ex-lovers.

Christina:

The unfortunate benefit of

The L word

fanfic could be the incredible amount of Bette Tina fanfic is like, y’all require to…

Drew:

You know, In my opinion we would have a reason to get involved with this afterwards. Which is only a little tease in regards to our primary topic.

Christina:

Okay. Angst.

Drew:

Okay.

Christina:

Bittersweet finishing.

Drew:


Freaks and Geeks?

Christina:

Close — no, perhaps not close. Really don’t have to sit for your requirements.

Drew:

I’m not sure precisely why. I just took a jab at angst and bittersweet closing. Which is just sort of my thing.

Christina:

Yeah. That is true. That’s best shown. Romance (extremely sad). That is in parentheses, the sad.

Drew:

And it’s perhaps not

The Leftovers.

Christina:

It is not

The Leftovers.

I’m not planning to give this-

Drew:

Okay. I will be able to get this. Thus angst.

Christina:

craigslist m4m Tampa-hmm (affirmative).

Drew:

Bittersweet ending.

Christina:

Mm-hmm (affirmative). Romance parenthesis sad.

Drew:

Romance, extremely sad.

Christina:

Unresolved sexual tension.

Drew:

This might be all. This is simply me. This is like everything. This could possibly just be such a thing.

Christina:

Yeah, thanks for visiting fanfic, babe.

Drew:

Ooh. I mean, wow. Just what a welcome.

Christina:

Pining is an additional one.

Drew:

Exactly how so is this in identical household? Okay, hold off, I would ike to think about implies that Everyone loves being gay and have now an angst. Pining.

Christina:

I will state this tv show just isn’t gay.

Drew:

Oh.

Christina:

However it is a reveal that i am aware you like.

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:

How would you like one that’s going to provide it with away?

Drew:

I Really Do imagine we must log on to utilizing the podcast—

Christina:

I do.

Drew:

However, if it had been only you and i love going out as friends, i might resemble, no, no, no, provide myself a 1 / 2 hour. But fine, offer me personally the one.

Christina:

Blasphemy, spiritual injury.

Drew:


Fleabag.

Christina:

Indeed there it really is.

Drew:

There it really is.

Fleabag

is actually a demonstrate that since many of the crazy culture around it has eliminated out and it’s really nothing like each one of these irritating individuals personalities, I’m similar, incredible tv show.

Christina:

Yeah.

Drew:

Just a good show.

Christina:

Yeah.

Drew:

Just what a good, fantastic tv plan. That has been a lot of enjoyment. Thanks a lot.

Christina:

When.

Drew:

And I also’d choose simply generate a public-service… No, that is not what it is. Like a request to people that Needs some

Vida

fanfic. I’ll read it. I’m not sure exactly who i’d like it to be between. Maybe it can be, what is actually it labeled as if it is like two… We performed this. We did this when you look at the television team. We performed like a cross… What’s the word for it? What is it if it is like numerous programs?

Christina:

Yeah. Cross… Cross… That thing. I understand what you’re saying. I cannot think of the phrase. We could deliver all of our visitor in. I know they are aware the phrase.

Drew:

Okay. We are going to get into the major subject we are able to pull in our very own guest so the woman mind does not explode as she actually is trying to inform us this term. Guest, do you wish to present yourself?

Heather:

Yes. Hello, this will be Heather Hogan. I will be an Autostraddle publisher and editor. And usually when I listen to this podcast, I perform along adore it’s a game show whenever y’all are performing the games. It was quite difficult personally as silent although this had been taking place.

Christina:

I became like, this might be will be really fun, but it is also will be so very hard for my situation to work on this and Heather you should be hushed.

Heather:

Yeah. My favorite thus far has been, “Who Said It: Drew or Sappho?”

Christina:

Thank-you.

Heather:

And I had been really cheering like I happened to be on

The Price Is Right.

I became love, “Christina, no it is Drew! It Is Drew! It Is Drew! No, it is Sappho!” However performed great. You didn’t also require my personal assistance at this video game.

Christina:

Re-listening to that particular one, I became like, well, damn i know my pals slash I guess the writing of Sappho.

Heather:

You probably did effectively.

Drew:

You smashed it. I also experienced… to be certain the online game worked, I tried it on a number of people. Many people that do know myself a lot better than you are doing, Christina, in addition they all would never get it done. So I was really satisfied by you.

Christina:

Appears like I’m successful, basically all of that matters.

Drew:

Heather, tell us what that word is for the fanfiction.

Heather:

It’s just crossover.

Christina:

Its a crossover, yeah!

Drew:

Crossover! Oh, okay. Okay. I thought there seemed to be some extravagant term for this. But anyways, if someone desires to compose

Vida

fanfic that’s a crossover, it is another thing that I adore. I would like to see more of it. So all of our primary subject this week is certainly not fanfic. It is long-term relationships. Because, Heather, just how long are you within current union?

Heather:

I’ve been with my spouse for 11 years.

Drew:

Oh, that is such a long time.

Christina:

Drew, maybe you have completed everything consistently for 11 many years? Because We certainly have not.

Drew:

No, not gender. We haven’t done everything. Just what have I {done|completed|acco